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		<title>Bay Area housing market – Northern California real estate still in a housing bubble.  Bay Area housing prices for 2012.  $300,000 in per capita home equity evaporated since 2005.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 07:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bay Area housing is one of the most inflated real estate markets in the entire country.  It is an interesting social experiment seeing couples battle it out for a rundown property that is slightly bigger than a college student’s pizza filled apartment.  Northern California housing has been in a bubble for as long as I [...]<script type="text/javascript">SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "Bay Area housing market – Northern California real estate still in a housing bubble.  Bay Area housing prices for 2012.  $300,000 in per capita home equity evaporated since 2005.", url: "http://financemymoney.com/bay-area-housing-market-northern-california-real-estate-still-in-a-housing-bubble-bay-area-housing/" });</script>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bay Area housing is one of the most inflated <a href="http://financemymoney.com/the-city-san-francisco-real-estate-bubble-most-over-priced-real-estate-in-california-household-incomes-versus-prices-bottom-in-2016/" target="_blank">real estate markets</a> in the entire country.  It is an interesting social experiment seeing couples battle it out for a rundown property that is slightly bigger than a college student’s pizza filled apartment.  Northern California housing has been in a bubble for as long as I can remember.  Prices have fallen deeply in some regions like Contra Costa County and Solano County.  Places like Sonoma, Napa, and Alameda counties have all witnessed intense corrections since the peak in prices were hit.  But what will happen to Bay Area housing prices in 2012?  The trend is likely to disappoint those thinking that prices will serendipitously rise up simply because of the Golden Gate special touch.     <strong>  </strong></p>
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<p><em>The rise in Bay Area home values is part of the California housing bubble yet is more pronounced in the north.</em>  I’m not sure if we should be proud about being the leading spot of reality-disconnected real estate in the world but that is what we have.  Even with the dramatic decline in Bay Area home prices, some choose to ignore the numbers that prices have corrected.</p>
<p>Take for example this data:</p>
<blockquote><p><strong>Bay Area median price  </strong></p>
<p>November 2005:                              $625,000</p>
<p>February 2012:                                  $325,000</p></blockquote>
<p><em>Bay Area housing has seen a 48% price decline for the entire region and has wiped out $300,000 on a per capita home basis yet some still choose to ignore that a correction has occurred.</em>  Is seven years not enough to bring some people back to reality?  Yet when it comes to <a href="http://financemymoney.com/the-city-san-francisco-real-estate-bubble-most-over-priced-real-estate-in-california-household-incomes-versus-prices-bottom-in-2016/">Bay Area real estate</a>, this is what we are dealing with.</p>
<p>Many buyers in the Bay Area are currently investors:</p>
<p><strong><a title="Bay Area housing" href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Bay-Area-housing.jpg" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-691" title="Bay Area housing" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Bay-Area-housing.jpg" alt="Bay Area housing" width="267" height="216" /></a></strong></p>
<p><a href="http://www.dataquick.com/" target="_blank">DataQuick</a></p>
<p>Why does the above matter?  Because these investors are looking for cheap properties and they are a big part of the market.  26 percent of all purchases last month came from investors and the chart clearly shows the path of where things are heading.  The typical property they bought cost $230,000.  We are a long way from that $625,000 figure.  All <a href="http://financemymoney.com/the-city-san-francisco-real-estate-bubble-most-over-priced-real-estate-in-california-household-incomes-versus-prices-bottom-in-2016/">those funky California loans</a> are sure coming back to bite us hard in 2012.</p>
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		<title>The City – San Francisco remains most overpriced region in California.  Bay Area home values down 41 percent from May 2006 peak.  10 years to get to the peak 1996 to 2006.  10 years to bottom out 2006 to 2016.</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 08:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[People seem to think that simply having a good tech industry and a trendy scene warrants an entire region with many millions of people bidding on extremely old properties for whatever a bank will lend them.  I don’t say this with enthusiasm or any kind of bravado but the Bay Area has the most overpriced [...]<script type="text/javascript">SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "The City – San Francisco remains most overpriced region in California.  Bay Area home values down 41 percent from May 2006 peak.  10 years to get to the peak 1996 to 2006.  10 years to bottom out 2006 to 2016.", url: "http://financemymoney.com/the-city-san-francisco-real-estate-bubble-most-over-priced-real-estate-in-california-household-incomes-versus-prices-bottom-in-2016/" });</script>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People seem to think that simply having a good tech industry and a trendy scene warrants an entire region with many millions of people bidding on extremely old properties for whatever a <a href="http://financemymoney.com/the-complete-guide-to-toxic-mortgages-and-the-housing-situation-of-california-%e2%80%93-option-arms-55-percent-of-jumbo-california-loans-are-arms-794000-distressed-properties-and-failed-loan-modif/">bank will lend them</a>.  I don’t say this with enthusiasm or any kind of bravado but the Bay Area has the most overpriced real estate in the entire state of California.  I’m not sure what it is but this region is completely disconnected from reality.  <a href="http://financemymoney.com/personal-income-for-american-worker-median-personal-income-for-those-working-in-america-is-much-less-than-you-would-think/">Incomes be damned</a>, people are eager to pay an arm and a leg for a glorified hut.  Yet here is the odd twist to the story; home prices in the Bay Area derived  from the Case Shiller San Francisco MSA data have fallen by 41 percent from the peak in 2006.  Does this sound like a boomtown in The City?</p>
<p><strong>A bubble has popped in The City</strong></p>
<p>You don’t have to be a charting genius to see that home prices have completely collapsed since the peak in 2006:</p>
<p><strong><a title="case shiller bay area 2012" href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/case-shiller-bay-area-2012.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-658" title="case shiller bay area 2012" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/case-shiller-bay-area-2012.png" alt="case shiller bay area 2012" width="459" height="478" /></a></strong></p>
<p>From 1996 to 2006 home prices in San Francisco only knew to do one thing and that was to move up.  Yet that has now massively reversed.  It doesn’t help that California has a somewhat inconsistent budget process and incredibly low property tax rates.  This is a separate debate but home prices in the state were encouraged to go up with no regard to income thanks to <a href="http://financemymoney.com/the-complete-guide-to-toxic-mortgages-and-the-housing-situation-of-california-%e2%80%93-option-arms-55-percent-of-jumbo-california-loans-are-arms-794000-distressed-properties-and-failed-loan-modif/">funny mortgages</a> that belong in some kind of B-rated movie about financial swindles.  The obvious outcome was a bubble and the burst is what we are living in.</p>
<p>If we pull the data out, we find home prices moving lower and now stalling out.  The question is, will we see a second round lower?</p>
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<p>Think prices aren’t out of sync?  Take a look at this 833 square foot condo:</p>
<p><strong><a title="bay area condo" href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bay-area-condo.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone  wp-image-660" title="bay area condo" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bay-area-condo.png" alt="bay area condo" width="518" height="261" /></a></strong></p>
<p>The current sales price is $849,000.  When I see things like this it is hard to see any other path than seeing prices move even lower.  I took a look at income data for this zip code and it is $170,000.  No way can $170,000 a year pay for this place.  More to the point, why would anyone pay this much for 833 square feet?</p>
<p>I know some buy into the high price real estate world of California but the statistics show a very different picture and pattern emerging.  Sure San Francisco and the surrounding area are excellent but prices are simply out of line with what people can generate.  To say that incomes don’t matter when it comes to real estate prices is like saying the engine of a car doesn’t matter because the tires are inflated.  <a href="http://financemymoney.com/personal-income-for-american-worker-median-personal-income-for-those-working-in-america-is-much-less-than-you-would-think/">Incomes</a> absolutely matter.  Going into <a href="http://financemymoney.com/how-many-credit-cards-should-i-have-credit-card-statistics-the-number-of-credit-cards-you-should-have/">massive debt</a> for something you cannot afford typically does not end well.  People over estimate how much households make in the Bay Area:</p>
<p><strong><a title="sf-income-data" href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/sf-income-data.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-661" title="sf-income-data" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/sf-income-data.png" alt="sf-income-data" width="477" height="394" /></a></strong></p>
<p>These figures flat out do not support current prices.  A low interest rate is merely a teaser to do something inane like taking on $20,000 in credit card debt just because you can get 12 months at zero percent.</p>
<p>The City is bound for a second go around in the California correction.  10 years to get to the bubble peak, might take 10 years to reach the bottom (i.e., 2016).  Garbage in, garbage out.</p>
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		<title>The Most Expensive County in California Examined – How San Francisco County Became the Most Over Priced Real Estate in California.  26% of Those Who Own Their San Francisco Home Would not be Able to Afford Their own Place if they Bought Today.</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only two counties in California have the honor of having a median price of over $600,000.  Sure, we have areas like Beverly Hills with a median price of millions of dollars but this is still part of Los Angeles County.  But to have a county like San Francisco with a current median price of $627,500 [...]<script type="text/javascript">SHARETHIS.addEntry({ title: "The Most Expensive County in California Examined – How San Francisco County Became the Most Over Priced Real Estate in California.  26% of Those Who Own Their San Francisco Home Would not be Able to Afford Their own Place if they Bought Today.", url: "http://financemymoney.com/expensive-san-francisco-homes-renters-afford/" });</script>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only two counties in California have the honor of having a median price of over $600,000.  Sure, we have areas like Beverly Hills with a median price of millions of dollars but this is still part of Los Angeles County.  But to have a county like San Francisco with a current median price of $627,500 even after all the <a href="../../../../../housings-treacherous-path-from-44-percent-homeownership-to-70-percent-the-levittown-dream-and-nothing-down-madness-how-a-nation-lost-its-way-with-homeownership/">California housing</a> turmoil boggles the mind.  It is hard to grasp because the county income dynamics do not support that price level.  Not even close.  It’s as if the correction in the state was passed over in San Francisco.  But make no mistake, this county has always been expensive.  Even in 2000 the median price in the county was up to $477,000 mostly because of the tech bubble secondary push.</p>
<p>Let us look at the current data and try to figure out what is going on:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/san-francisco-median-prices.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-363" title="san francisco median prices" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/san-francisco-median-prices.png" alt="" width="498" height="258" /></a></strong></p>
<p>The latest data shows San Francisco still holding at a very high median price.  But San Francisco County only accounts for 6% of all Bay Area home sales.  It should be obvious that price is one of those reasons keeping people from buying in the city.  Yet the reasons don’t seem so obvious when we dig deeper into the data:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/sf-income-data.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-364" title="sf income data" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/sf-income-data.png" alt="" width="477" height="394" /></a></strong></p>
<p>The median household income for San Francisco County is $73,000.  So with a current median price of $627,500 we are looking at a household income to home price ratio of over 8.  This is enormous since even looking at <a href="../../../../../housings-treacherous-path-from-44-percent-homeownership-to-70-percent-the-levittown-dream-and-nothing-down-madness-how-a-nation-lost-its-way-with-homeownership/">historical data</a> a ratio of 3 to 4 seems to be more standard.  Looking at this data tells us that SF County is definitely still in a housing bubble.  As other areas have corrected, this area is still being propped up and it is certainly not because of higher than expected incomes.  In fact, if we look at distress inventory for SF we find that many households are now unable to pay their mortgages:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/san-francisco.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-365" title="san francisco" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/san-francisco.png" alt="" width="406" height="394" /></a></strong></p>
<p>Distress inventory trumps the actual MLS data viewable to the public.  This is very common throughout many counties in California.  But you would logically think that the most expensive county would have people that are able to pay their mortgages at a higher percentage than other areas.  That is not the case if we are to look at the above.</p>
<p>San Francisco is an interesting case study.  The county is made up of 359,000 households.  But when we look at the housing dynamics we can see why the median income is much lower:</p>
<blockquote><p>Housing occupied units:                                323,000</p>
<p>Owner-occupied:                             127,000</p>
<p>Renter-occupied:                             195,000                 (60%)</p></blockquote>
<p>60% of those living in San Francisco County rent.  The obvious reason is that many people don’t have the income to support those current prices.  There is no way a $73,000 income can buy a $625,000 home.  So let us look at the above income chart again.  In order to “afford” a $625,000 a household income will need at least an income of $200,000.  Of those living in San Francisco only 14% make that amount.  Yet 40% occupy their home (i.e., own their place).  So we have a 26% gap of those living in their home that if they were to buy today, would not be able to do so.  We see this when homes were purchased in California:</p>
<p><strong><a href="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/california-housing-units-bought.png" target="_blank"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-366" title="california-housing-units-bought" src="http://financemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/california-housing-units-bought.png" alt="" width="491" height="394" /></a></strong></p>
<p>And for San Francisco, about 40% bought before 2000.  It is interesting to see these numbers because it shows us that many <a href="../../../../../housings-treacherous-path-from-44-percent-homeownership-to-70-percent-the-levittown-dream-and-nothing-down-madness-how-a-nation-lost-its-way-with-homeownership/">counties in California</a> are still in bubbles.  Given the <a href="../../../../../california-notice-of-defaults-hit-record-foreclosures-hamp-loan-modifications/">distress inventory</a>, we would expect more correcting in these areas.  In fact, you’ll notice that the Bay Area is up 20% for the year in price while San Francisco County is down 2%.  This is a long way from making sense but it is heading in the right direction.</p>
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