The California Home Buying Debate: Southern California Home Sales Broken out in Price Tier Ranges. The Amount of California Home you can Afford is Probably Less Than you Expect.

For many prudent prospective home buyers, many who have saved diligently for years, many are licking their chops to purchase a home in California.  But let us be honest, most are looking to purchase in selective markets like Marin County or parts of the Westside here in Southern California.  They hear about the 50 percent median price drops and overlay this statewide data to niche markets.  Yet most of the sales are occurring at the lower end.  This is a given.  But how does this look if we really break the data down?  I pulled the recent DataQuick data for August of 2009 for Southern California and broke out the price segments:

socal price ranges

Now I think this data is extremely important in helping to dissect the current home selling trends in Southern California and for the most part, other areas of the state.  The lower end of the market, homes priced under $300,000 seem to be moving at a brisk pace.  Yet once you move over that point, things change.  In fact, 53 percent of all homes sale occurred under the $300,000 point mark.  Out of 4,168 single family homes sold, over 2,000 came from the lower priced region.

There seems to be a bit of frustration by people who have sizable down payments and look at regions that have resistant price drops.  It isn’t so much that prices are resistant, it’s just that there is a number of buyers who are capitulating at a time when California will see a second leg hit in 2010.  Interestingly enough more of the problems are going to occur on the over $300,000 market.  But let us look at some affordability calculators here.  Since the government is backing most mortgages and subsidizing purchases with tax credits, let us see what a family can afford according to Ginnie Mae.  I’ll run the numbers for a family making $150,000 a year, with $200 of credit card payments per month, and a $300 auto loan:

home budget

Here is the problem.  With a $150,000 income a family can afford a home within a $350,000 to $360,000 range.  This is assuming they use a FHA backed loan which for Southern California, made up 37 percent of all loans for last month.  But notice the conventional side of the equation?  If they have a down payment of $85,000 they can buy a home up to $569,000.  But look at the total housing cost.  For this borrower they will be spending $5,300 a month on their overall home payments which include principal, interest, taxes, and insurance.  This is assuming only $500 in other expenses and the family having over $100,000 to close on the deal.  And you wonder why the higher end of the market is stagnant.

So how were buyers able to buy expensive homes in the past?  Usher in the era of the interest only, option ARMs, and other mortgage products that artificially gave the buyer massive leverage that is now putting many in trouble.  Just run a scenario.  A couple that pulls in $150,000 now loses a job in California.  Not unlikely with 12.2 percent unemployment.  They were already squeaking by if they have a $600,000 mortgage so the income might fall by half.  But the payment is actually going to go up either with a reset or more likely, a recast in more expensive areas.

But go back to the scenario above.  All someone would need to buy a $365,000 home with a FHA backed loan is about $14,000.  That is a large amount of leverage still.  You would hope that banks are at least adhering to strict underwriting guidelines required by FHA and their front end and back end ratios (31 to 38 percent).

The above also explains the stagnant mid to upper tier market.  People can still buy as long as they have the adequate income to back it up.  But don’t expect a flurry of people to jump on all these homes and certainly don’t expect prices to zoom back up.  The economy in the state is already putting a cap on that.  The amount of leverage is simply no longer in place.  We are really heading back to a more traditional market but we have years of pending foreclosures that will work their way through the system so our market won’t be “normal” probably for another 5 years or so.

So how much home can you afford?  As a rough rule about 3 times your gross annual income for a mortgage.  So someone making $100,000 can buy a $300,000 home and still have safe wiggle room.  But many of these people when I speak with them have their eyes set on $600,000 homes.  This is the same logic that went with the housing bubble.  They cannot afford these homes.  And given the troubled loans in the mid to upper tier, I won’t be surprised to see a 10 to 15 percent drop in the next few years which in many cases will wipe out 2 or 3 years of you saving up for a down payment.

You also want to assess how secure your position is.  Are you seeing hours cut?  Will you downsize from two incomes to one if you plan on having a family?  Sometimes people ignore these important questions.  So right now California is still seeing pockets of the bubble but homes that are priced right are moving.  Yet many people have beer budgets and champagne taste.

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  1. jim said:

    OK MOST OF THIS SOUNDS PRETTY ACCURATE ( We are really heading back to a more traditional market.) TRUE …. (we have years of pending foreclosures that will work their way through the system so our market won’t be “normal” probably for another 5 years or so.) I DON’T THINK SO ! TRY 15-20YRS IF NOT LONGER !……. (And given the troubled loans in the mid to upper tier, I won’t be surprised to see a 10 to 15 percent drop in the next few years.)I DON’T BELIEVE THAT EITHER . DON’T BE SURPRISED TO SEE AN ADDITIONAL 25-50% DROP IN THE MID TO UPPER TIER ! IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD OF $600,000. HOUSES THERE ARE ABOUT 40 REO PROPERTIES THAT RECENTLY ( IN THE LAST 4-6 MOS.)HAVE BEEN FORECLOSED ON .THERE ARE ONLY 120 HOMES BUILT IN THE DIVISION I LIVE IN AND IM SURE THERE ARE MORE TO COME! MOST ARE NOT FOR SALE YET ! AND THE FEW THAT ARE LISTED ARE BETWEEN 35-40% LESS THAN THEY SOLD FOR NEW AND ARE NOT SELLING ! I BELIEVE WE ARE IN FOR A LONG HAUL ! ANOTHER JAPAN IN THE WORKS!

    September 24th, 2009 at 6:40 am
  2. n said:

    Please check the math on your monthly mortgage payments.

    September 24th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
  3. Eric said:

    I don’t think the problem is necessarily that people have beer budgets and champagne tastes. I think the problem is that housing has become so absurdly overpriced that it bears no logical correlation to income and lifestyle.

    For instance, a family making $150k a year is a high income family. At 3 times yearly income they should be able to afford $450k for a house. Yet most houses offered in the $450k price range aren’t high-income-lifestyle houses unless they’re out in a far-flung suburb.

    Prices are still ridiculous. People making $150k/yr or even $100k/yr don’t want to pay $3000/month to live in what, before the bubble, was a working class or lower middle class house. So, they turn to creative financing to get the house that they should be able to afford based on their income and the lifestyle that income should be able to purchase.

    My point is that housing is waaaayyy over-priced. Look at charts of housing prices to incomes since the 90s. Housing prices have risen far faster than incomes. Higher-end housing is still priced too high. Not all of the air has yet been let out of the bubble.

    September 24th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
  4. Tim and Julie Harris said:

    Hi,
    Great article and comments.

    We are looking for a place in the beach cities of SoCal. There is not question that homes/ condos are still waaaay over priced. Get this, we came across a place that was listed for sale for $8,000,000..almost on the beach…rental price with a little haggling…$3750! THAT IS INSANE. Why would anyone buy?

    The reality is that when you drive around SoCal its common to see empty homes not for sale……speak with homeowners not making their home payments…..those are all upcoming REOs.

    At least 10% price drop in most of SoCal is coming…..by the way, what will all these recent buyers do when they wake up to discover they are upside down in their recently purchased homes?

    September 24th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
  5. T.C. said:

    I live in the San Fernando Valley of Los Angeles. A house just went up for sale across the street. It’s a 2bed/1bath on a 5000sqft lot that was built in 1950, about 850sqft inside. Asking price?

    $715,000.

    Prices in much of SoCal STILL bear no relation to reality.

    September 24th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
  6. t18skyguy said:

    The formula for what a home is worth is straight forward. Find what a similar home in the neighborhood would rent for. Never pay more than 15 times the annual rent for any home. The cheaper you get it below that the better off you’ll be. Be sure the ren t is comparable though. Check several houses.

    September 24th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
  7. JOHN said:

    THIS IS VERY COMMON . HERE WHERE I LIVE YOU CAN DRIVE DOWN A STREET AND SEE A HOUSE LISTED FOR $750,000 . WELL JUST KEEP ON DRIVING AND YOU CAN FIND THE EXACT SAME HOME TWO STREETS OVER FOR $369,000 LISTED NOW ON THE MARKET FOR 6 MONTHS !I BELEIVE THESE HOMES WILL SELL IN THE 200S IN THE NEXT YEAR OR TWO !REASON BEING , THERE ARE ANOTHER 40+ FORECLOSED HOMES IN THE AREA AND STILL CLIMBING !

    September 27th, 2009 at 7:54 am

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